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TERRORISM:-9/11 ONWARDS. Some Facts: Intelligent Discussion Devoid of Slander or Abuse Please.
Greetings my fellow non and Muslim Sisters and Brothers.
What a jolly Gay Day this is!
The purpose of this thread is to encourage serious debate on the serious threat of terror plots globally and to have this debate in an atmosphere of harmony and frank exchanging of views without any racial or religious or sexual bigotry.
9/11 as it unfolded, raised many concerns, not least for the ability of a non-governmental force to visit such havoc upon the world's most powerful nation.
I can say with all honesty that I felt quite nauseated for about 20 minutes as I watched the live coverage unfold. I watched the drama simultaneously on two tv's set to BBC1 and ITV1 and flicked from time to time to Channel5 news too.
I say 20 minutes only because there was something about the nature of the broadcasts which gave the unfolding drama a kind of surreal quality.
Fairly quickly therefore, I began to ask questions, as they occurred to me, that were matters of real concern to me and yet were not being addressed by any of the news shows.
The story seemed to be that passenger airliners had taken off from a variety of airports, all with destinations other than New York, and, that they had all deviated from normal flight paths as they headed towards New York. This fact immediately raised a plethora of reasonable questions in my mind, that the news shows appeared not to be addressing.
Firstly: I certainly am no air traffic expert but I'm sure that we all know that airline flight path control is a very sensitive issue and if a plane deviates from a scheduled course then this would, as it should, be immediately know to controllers who would and should be immediately on alert as a "self roaming" airliner would have the potential to wreak havoc on other set airline courses.
However, there was no questioning of this matter in any detail on the news shows.
Second: We know (or at least were told) that the airliners made no responses to attempts to contact them and yet, despite these two worrying facts, there was no emergency scrambling of supersonic fighter aircraft to intercept these now "rogue" flights;
they were allowed to proceed! WHY?
Before we go on to the phenomenon of the two towers collapse-post collision- we were told something that was unusual;
the passengers on the airliners made phone calls-was that because technology in the USA is ahead of elsewhere? It has been a major news item in recent months that "passengers will soon be able to make calls from their mobile phones whilst in flight".
Anyway and moving on, the planes hit the buildings and shortly, the towers collapsed;
I saw the second building come down live and no doubt that collapse would have done any demolition expert proud as, just like in Vegas when they drop large casinos in built up areas, the towers dropped in pretty much a straight line down.
The reason given for this miracle was that the heat from the aircraft fuel burning had melted the supporting structure;
the heat was so intense that the "indestructible" black boxes were unrecoverable;
but, a Saudi passport survived;
The basement of one of the buildings was full of gold-whatever happened to that?
There are a plethora of other questions and films on youtube pose many of these such as;
were they really passenger airliners?
did one of the planes fire a missile before hitting?
Check out youtube for all sorts of real film including one of a BBC presenter talking about a building collapse about 20+ minutes before it did; in the live film behind the presenter is a shot of the building that the presenter says is already down.
Moving on now to the Pentagon and also on youtube is news reel footage from both CNN and Fox (both officially suppressed) where the reporter states quite categorically that "something has hit the Pentagon but it's not a plane";
On an extreme right wing blog in 2006 I saw the "official" film of the "plane" hitting the Pentagon; whatever hit the Pentagon was in no way a plane!
Additionally there is similar reportage regarding the 4th plane that the passengers forced to crash land in woods but again reporters state that "this couldn't have been a plane";
all of these pieces of footage are again officially suppressed but are available on youtube.
Let's jump now to 7/7; definitely another heinous act but, why did tOry bLiAr call, calls for an open public enquiry (supported by victims) a LUDICROUS DIVERSION?
A very provoking documentary of that name is available and I'd suggest that you google for it.
Now for a bit of record straightening; despite what my many detractors will say about me I have always consistently posted along the following lines:
a)I do not support terrorism in ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM;
b)I DO support JUSTICE as enshrined in MAGNA CARTA;
c)If people, of whatsoever political or religious leanings wish to visit violence in whatsoever shape then I say PROVE their guilt as quickly as possible and;
i)bang them up for LIFE and/or
ii)withdraw their nationality entitlement if they are naturalised British and deport them.
Mant posters on here linger under impressions that we are in dire danger from "Al-Qaeeda"
What evidence is presented to us?:
The Home Secretary (who stalks her constituency in garb better befitting our Boys and Girls on battlefronts) has recently stated that there are currently 11 "terrorist plots"!
And?
Is she doing nothing about it? There are 11 plots? There should be NONE because as soon as you discover one you snuff it OUT! I wonder what the "terrorists are saying: " oh, they know about 11 plots"!
This language and spreading of "terrifying" information makes no sense to a discerning examination of the so called facts.
In recent months a nuclear plot by a converted Hindu (an Al-Qaeeda general) was thwarted! This chap planned to "flood the underground system with a dirty bomb" to be set off in a tube train under the Thames.
The liquid bombs on planes plot is currently being heard; now I'm not saying that bombs cannot be made from everyday materials,
I am saying that the ability to get enough gear on a plane and the ability to mix it safely on board and cause a cataclysmic event is impossible and, I posted the "register" link on the "liquid Bombs" thread as proof of this.
To sum up I'm saying it's time to get real and to visit REAL justice on any who would wish to do us harm;
BUT;
Jackie Smith et al;
DON'T LIE TO US AND DON'T FOB US OF WITH FAIRY STORIES AND UTTER DRIVEL.
The way for the British government to curb Islamic "terrorism" is to give would be combatants a copy of the Qur'an and ask them:
"SHOW US THE VERSES THAT SUPPORT YOUR COWARDLY ACTIONS IN KILLING INNOCENT UNARMED CIVILIANS INCLUDING WOMEN AND CHILDREN"
This they can never do!
But you know, I don't think that the British government will ever approach this problem properly because;
THE CURRENT SITUATION;
IS;
JUST;
TOO PROFITABLE!
DONTCHA JEST LURV CAPITALISM?
Greetings my fellow non and Muslim Sisters and Brothers.
What a jolly Gay Day this is!
The purpose of this thread is to encourage serious debate on the serious threat of terror plots globally and to have this debate in an atmosphere of harmony and frank exchanging of views without any racial or religious or sexual bigotry.
9/11 as it unfolded, raised many concerns, not least for the ability of a non-governmental force to visit such havoc upon the world's most powerful nation.
I can say with all honesty that I felt quite nauseated for about 20 minutes as I watched the live coverage unfold. I watched the drama simultaneously on two tv's set to BBC1 and ITV1 and flicked from time to time to Channel5 news too.
I say 20 minutes only because there was something about the nature of the broadcasts which gave the unfolding drama a kind of surreal quality.
Fairly quickly therefore, I began to ask questions, as they occurred to me, that were matters of real concern to me and yet were not being addressed by any of the news shows.
The story seemed to be that passenger airliners had taken off from a variety of airports, all with destinations other than New York, and, that they had all deviated from normal flight paths as they headed towards New York. This fact immediately raised a plethora of reasonable questions in my mind, that the news shows appeared not to be addressing.
Firstly: I certainly am no air traffic expert but I'm sure that we all know that airline flight path control is a very sensitive issue and if a plane deviates from a scheduled course then this would, as it should, be immediately know to controllers who would and should be immediately on alert as a "self roaming" airliner would have the potential to wreak havoc on other set airline courses.
However, there was no questioning of this matter in any detail on the news shows.
Second: We know (or at least were told) that the airliners made no responses to attempts to contact them and yet, despite these two worrying facts, there was no emergency scrambling of supersonic fighter aircraft to intercept these now "rogue" flights;
they were allowed to proceed! WHY?
Before we go on to the phenomenon of the two towers collapse-post collision- we were told something that was unusual;
the passengers on the airliners made phone calls-was that because technology in the USA is ahead of elsewhere? It has been a major news item in recent months that "passengers will soon be able to make calls from their mobile phones whilst in flight".
Anyway and moving on, the planes hit the buildings and shortly, the towers collapsed;
I saw the second building come down live and no doubt that collapse would have done any demolition expert proud as, just like in Vegas when they drop large casinos in built up areas, the towers dropped in pretty much a straight line down.
The reason given for this miracle was that the heat from the aircraft fuel burning had melted the supporting structure;
the heat was so intense that the "indestructible" black boxes were unrecoverable;
but, a Saudi passport survived;
The basement of one of the buildings was full of gold-whatever happened to that?
There are a plethora of other questions and films on youtube pose many of these such as;
were they really passenger airliners?
did one of the planes fire a missile before hitting?
Check out youtube for all sorts of real film including one of a BBC presenter talking about a building collapse about 20+ minutes before it did; in the live film behind the presenter is a shot of the building that the presenter says is already down.
Moving on now to the Pentagon and also on youtube is news reel footage from both CNN and Fox (both officially suppressed) where the reporter states quite categorically that "something has hit the Pentagon but it's not a plane";
On an extreme right wing blog in 2006 I saw the "official" film of the "plane" hitting the Pentagon; whatever hit the Pentagon was in no way a plane!
Additionally there is similar reportage regarding the 4th plane that the passengers forced to crash land in woods but again reporters state that "this couldn't have been a plane";
all of these pieces of footage are again officially suppressed but are available on youtube.
Let's jump now to 7/7; definitely another heinous act but, why did tOry bLiAr call, calls for an open public enquiry (supported by victims) a LUDICROUS DIVERSION?
A very provoking documentary of that name is available and I'd suggest that you google for it.
Now for a bit of record straightening; despite what my many detractors will say about me I have always consistently posted along the following lines:
a)I do not support terrorism in ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM;
b)I DO support JUSTICE as enshrined in MAGNA CARTA;
c)If people, of whatsoever political or religious leanings wish to visit violence in whatsoever shape then I say PROVE their guilt as quickly as possible and;
i)bang them up for LIFE and/or
ii)withdraw their nationality entitlement if they are naturalised British and deport them.
Mant posters on here linger under impressions that we are in dire danger from "Al-Qaeeda"
What evidence is presented to us?:
The Home Secretary (who stalks her constituency in garb better befitting our Boys and Girls on battlefronts) has recently stated that there are currently 11 "terrorist plots"!
And?
Is she doing nothing about it? There are 11 plots? There should be NONE because as soon as you discover one you snuff it OUT! I wonder what the "terrorists are saying: " oh, they know about 11 plots"!
This language and spreading of "terrifying" information makes no sense to a discerning examination of the so called facts.
In recent months a nuclear plot by a converted Hindu (an Al-Qaeeda general) was thwarted! This chap planned to "flood the underground system with a dirty bomb" to be set off in a tube train under the Thames.
The liquid bombs on planes plot is currently being heard; now I'm not saying that bombs cannot be made from everyday materials,
I am saying that the ability to get enough gear on a plane and the ability to mix it safely on board and cause a cataclysmic event is impossible and, I posted the "register" link on the "liquid Bombs" thread as proof of this.
To sum up I'm saying it's time to get real and to visit REAL justice on any who would wish to do us harm;
BUT;
Jackie Smith et al;
DON'T LIE TO US AND DON'T FOB US OF WITH FAIRY STORIES AND UTTER DRIVEL.
The way for the British government to curb Islamic "terrorism" is to give would be combatants a copy of the Qur'an and ask them:
"SHOW US THE VERSES THAT SUPPORT YOUR COWARDLY ACTIONS IN KILLING INNOCENT UNARMED CIVILIANS INCLUDING WOMEN AND CHILDREN"
This they can never do!
But you know, I don't think that the British government will ever approach this problem properly because;
THE CURRENT SITUATION;
IS;
JUST;
TOO PROFITABLE!
DONTCHA JEST LURV CAPITALISM?
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